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In the last year, we’ve been in lots of conversations with leaders about the high percentage of churn in many of our digital service businesses. When churn numbers are sometimes close to 50%, it’s impossibly hard to maintain solid growth in this part of our business. That’s a big issue, as many have hoped to offset the slow/no growth of our core business with more robust growth in digital services. 

What’s causing this high churn? I’m sure there are dozens of reasons. But from the perspective of a company that spends a whole lot of time interacting with AE’s and Digital Managers, let me offer three things I think are a huge part of this problem. There’s no attempt here to order these by priority, and I’m positive many of you can add things to this list, but I think each of these things is significant. 

1. AE’s, even digital leaders, who don’t understand which marketing principles should drive the digital tools a client uses. 

This means that clients are all too frequently being sold solutions to problems they don’t have, and not being sold the things that could really make a difference in their business. 

Linked to this is the tendency to sell the client the newest and brightest product because we’re energized about it. An example… I love what geo-fencing can do. In the right situation, it’s a powerful targeting product. But when geo-fencing started getting hot two years ago, we saw dozens of situations where a client had been sold geo-fencing by an AE who loved it but didn’t understand whether it made sense for his/her particular client. 

How to solve this problem? Start by being really clear about identifying the marketing priority of a client. Do they have a basic awareness problem? Here are the specific products that might fit with that. Need help separating yourself from your competitors? These products would be in the sweet spot for that. Promoting an event that might help you take customers away from a competitor? Use these products. Have a dealer with a pump in/pump out imbalance? These are the products that might help them. Truth be told, there are only about 8-10 basic marketing challenges that show up in the 5000+ sales calls Jim Doyle & Associates will make this year. So this isn’t as big an undertaking as it seems. But it needs leadership that sees the significance of this and is driven to try to fix it. It won’t happen on its own. 

This is part of the ongoing effort to make our digital services business more customer-focused than product-focused. This is way more than teaching AE’s how to do a solid business diagnosis call. It’s helping all involved to understand what products to suggest once you determine each client’s specific marketing needs.
 
2. We need to ask for more money for our digital products. 

Serious money = Serious results. Little money = Little results. That’s a basic principle of all advertising. If I were leading digital sales, I’d be analyzing my churn by spending level. I’m going to guess that just like with our core TV product, your churn will be a much higher percentage when clients are spending a small amount and will go down as spending increases. We have way too many clients spending peanuts on our digital service products. 

But there’s an elephant in the room on this subject. Our sellers are straddling a line between wanting to sell more digital, but at the same time, not wanting to take money from their core TV spending. I can also tell you, without equivocation, that many, many sellers don’t believe in the power of these products the way they do the core TV products. This causes a self-fulfilling prophecy. We continue to sell clients a mix of products that put 90-95% of the money on TV. So guess what? The digital part doesn’t perform as well. Little money = Little results. 

This is a complicated issue to solve since most of our digital services revenue comes from existing TV advertisers. I’ve seen stations solve it with incredibly talented digital sales managers, who are focused on looking at comprehensive solutions for clients. These digital leaders are passionate about their products and are experts at accountability. And, they’re not afraid to ask for bigger dollars and push their reluctant AE’s to step up their asks. 

An educated guess? I think smart, effective, client-focused digital sales managers might really be the key difference between high-churn and low-churn stations. They’re hard to find, so we’ll need to grow more. 

3. The client wants to cancel their digital spending. What do we do?

Let’s be honest. I’m an AE with a $100,000 client and $12,000 is digital —not our O and O inventory but digital service products. My client calls me concerned about the results of their digital. They want to cancel. It’s a rare AE who will argue with the client about that because they’re afraid it might jeopardize the bigger piece of the money. So we take a cancellation without pushing back. 

This problem may be the easiest to solve. We have to get better at mandating regular reporting on the results that digital schedules are getting. The power of digital is accountability. I can keep a client sold with regular, perhaps monthly, reporting and discussions married to making changes when the results suggest a new approach has to be taken. I think we have too many AE’s who set up schedules, both TV and digital, and don’t check in often enough with the client. That’s dangerous. And on digital, it will absolutely increase your churn. Don’t plug and play. 

There’s a huge business reason to pay attention to the amount of digital churn and work hard to get it lower. We have a massive opportunity in this part of our business. It’s not just the digital revenue in play. A powerful digital services component allows us to truly become a marketing partner with our clients, and that has lots of impact on our traditional TV spending as well. But if we can’t get the churn lower, we’ll be chasing our tails, needing to replace a huge part of our business every year, just to stay even. 

And that’s not going to get us where we need to be.


Jim Doyle and the JDA team are passionate about helping sales managers get better. One of the ways they do that is the Sales Manager’s High Performance Boot Camp. This program gets rave reviews with a combination of real-world ideas and inspirational outside speakers. Our next Boot Camp is in Tampa, January 2018. More info: Boot Camp 2018 

There may be no better investment you can make in your future than to help your sales manager to get better.

About Ken Marks

Ken Marks is a Senior Marketing Strategist for JDA.media

Ken has spent the last 30+ years working closely with hundreds of small and mid-sized business owners and ad agencies, helping them navigate and leverage the ever-changing media landscape of television, streaming TV, digital, and radio.

Marks began his career in radio advertising in Central Florida. He spent 15 years at Gross Communications where he became the VP/GM of the company’s radio, print, and digital divisions. He went on to manage several more stations at Cox Media Group where he hired, managed, and trained the first digital-only sales team.

Ken then spent nearly 10 years as a marketing consultant with the Hearst Corporation at WESH 2 NBC and Hearst Digital in Central Florida. He earned the company’s prestigious Eagle award three times, given to the most valuable marketing consultant in each market that achieves all goals and consistently demonstrates an expertise in digital and television marketing.

In 2013, Ken launched Marks Media Group, Inc., a marketing agency specializing in web design, SEO, SEM, traditional and digital advertising. His expertise in digital is quickly extending to the world of AI. With a working knowledge of tools like n8n, Bubble, and Zapier, his goal is to build automated workflows that make businesses and marketers more productive.

For several years, Ken and his wife Jennifer owned a successful retail franchise called “Once Upon a Child.” They also own and manage several short and long-term rental properties. Ken has a unique ability to relate to business owners and knows exactly what it is like to invest money in advertising.

Marks grew up in St. Louis, Missouri and graduated from Missouri State University. He and Jennifer reside in Orlando, Florida and have two boys and a girl (a Marine pilot in-training, a Sophomore at the University of Florida, and a beautiful 13-year-old daughter and MVP volleyball player).

When not working Ken loves to spend time with his family, boat, and fish on Lake Conway, play guitar, piano, and attempt to build just about anything.

About Brittany Tomjanovich

Brittany Tomjanovich is the Director of Client Services & Operations at JDA.media.

 Since entering the media industry in 2011, Brittany has built her career around operational excellence, strategic thinking, and a relentless focus on making systems work smarter. She thrives behind the scenes—connecting dots, refining processes, and strengthening the systems that power broadcast success.

 Her career began at WKOW, Madison’s ABC affiliate, where she quickly advanced from sales assistant to a key member of the station’s sales and programming operations. She later served as Broadcast Group Sales Coordinator at Quincy Media Inc., training support staff across 16 markets and acting as a vital liaison to executive leadership.

 Today, Brittany plays a critical role in shaping both the client experience and operational infrastructure at JDA.media. Whether optimizing internal systems or contributing to client-facing strategy, she’s valued for her creative problem-solving, sharp attention to detail, and ability to turn complex challenges into smooth, scalable solutions.

 A proud graduate of the University of Wisconsin–Madison (On Wisconsin!), Brittany lives in Blue Mounds, WI, with her husband, Tyler, and their two children, Hailey and Mason.

 A quirky, outdoorsy introvert with a creative streak and a soft spot for sasquatch, she brings a calm, curious energy to everything she takes on. Whether she’s balancing a busy family schedule, exploring the outdoors, or diving into her latest craft or home project, she’s forever in motion—finding joy in the little things along the way.

 

About Margie Chilson

Margie Chilson is a Senior Marketing Strategist for JDA.media.

Her vast experience includes over three decades in broadcast television and digital sales marketing, working in and with multiple markets and affiliations including Dallas-Fort Worth at WFAA, Denver at KUSA-KTVD, KMGH, KWGN, and as a team manager at Millennium Television Sales in Dallas.

Margie’s years as a local seller were award-winning and inspiration for her jump to JDA.media. She exceeded new business and digital goals on a consistent basis at Belo Corp, Scripps, Tribune, and TEGNA Inc. stations.

A true innovator, Margie pioneered job-sharing positions in Dallas and Denver, balancing hectic work schedules and family, paving the way for working parents with careers in media sales.

Margie is well known and respected for her diligence, drive, and new business results utilizing both linear and digital video. She embraces the changing media environment and implements ChatGPT into the creative process.

Due to her years in the business as an account executive and sales leader, she knows the station environment well and can easily relate to local sellers as well as the most senior managers.

An alum of Oklahoma State University who graduated with Honors in Journalism Advertising, Margie boasts an outstanding track record of helping business owners strategically grow their revenue through broadcast, streaming and digital solutions.

Margie and her husband Tim have been married since 1998. The couple live in Morrison, CO, a suburb of Denver. Their son, Ryan, recently graduated from the University of Colorado Boulder, and their daughter, Mary, is attending Boise State University. 

In her spare time, Margie enjoys travel, hiking the picturesque Rocky Mountains, cooking, watching movies, and seeing concerts at Red Rocks Amphitheater.

 

 

 

 

 

About Jim Stoos

Jim Stoos is SVP, Revenue Drives at JDA.media.

For over 25 years, Jim has crafted successful marketing programs for thousands of local businesses.

Jim’s expansive media experience has been filled with delivering significant advertising results utilizing broadcast, digital, cable, and radio.

His specialty is helping small-to-medium-sized businesses address sales and marketing challenges while developing game-changing strategies with real-world creative solutions.

Prior to joining JDA.media, Jim held strategic media leaderships positions such as Local Sales manager, General Manager, and Regional Vice President at broadcast television and cable companies in the Midwest.

As a RVP Jim helped launch a successful suite of digital marketing solutions for his sales division. It was here he developed a deep knowledge of how to best leverage various digital platforms and solutions.

Since joining JDA, he has used his experience, marketing knowledge, and JDA.media’s foundational marketing principles, to help sellers and media marketers develop growth campaigns. Each one having positively impacted local business owners’ success. 

Jim lives in Bettendorf, Iowa, with his sweetheart Stacy, and his two sons.

For years he has worked as a dedicated member of Iowa’s Big Brothers Big Sisters program. Jim was a multi-sport college athlete and today enjoys running in competitive track meets for “old guys”.

In his spare time Jim enjoys working out with his boys (both scholarship track athletes at St. Ambrose University in Davenport), fishing, camping, and riding horses with Stacy.

 

 

 

 

holly allenAbout Holly Allen

Holly Allen is a JDA.media Senior Marketing Strategist.

With over 30-years in the media industry, including five plus years as President & General Manager of FOX23 and MY41 in Tulsa, OK, Holly has developed a deep expertise in many facets of media. However, her true passion is working directly with local businesses.

Her “no box” thinking and creative mind allow her to design effective marketing strategies that drive significant results.

Holly believes the first step to helping a local business grow is to “peel back the layers”, uncovering their unique needs, goals, and opportunities. Next, she formulates and executes a thorough, well-rounded marketing plan that exceeds their expectations.

She enjoys the brainstorming process and seeing clients get enthusiastic when her strategies bring their business to unprecedented levels of success.

In addition, Holly embraces all technology, including AI, and leverages well various digital marketing extensions for her clients.

Experts say the greatest predictor of success is past success, which rings especially true with Holly’s career. She started in media at an advertising agency, moved into local broadcast sales and marketing and quickly rose through the ranks into leadership roles.

Most recently Holly founded All-en Media, LLC, where she works with local business clients in various categories, including auto, banking, and retail.

A proud graduate of Oklahoma State University, she lives in Tulsa, OK. Her daughter, Lila, attends the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor and her son, Henry, a Michigan grad lives in NYC, New York.

Holly enjoys long outdoor walks and hikes, visiting with family and friends, and volunteering her time to local causes.

 

About John Hillary

John Hillary is Senior Vice President at JDA.media, where he leads national sales and strategy initiatives focused on helping media partners grow revenue through fully integrated, results-driven marketing solutions — including broadcast television, CTV/OTT, and targeted digital campaigns.

Since 2006, John has worked directly with thousands of small-to-medium-sized businesses, developing high-performing advertising strategies that consistently deliver measurable results.

His expertise spans a wide range of platforms, with a strong focus in recent years on streaming television, paid digital media, and data-driven audience targeting.

John began his media career with New Revenue Solutions (NRS) in Atlanta, GA, consulting for 25 different media outlets across the U.S. and Canada. As one of NRS Media’s lead consultants, he guided television, radio, cable, print, and digital partners in building innovative marketing programs that helped hundreds of local advertisers grow their businesses.

His success in revenue development led him to WCIU-TV in Chicago, where he served as an Account Executive, collaborating with local, regional, and national advertisers to create competitive, effective campaigns in one of the country’s largest media markets.

John joined JDA.media in 2017 as a Senior Marketing Strategist and was promoted to Senior Vice President in 2023. In his current role, he works closely with media companies, sales teams, and local business owners nationwide to generate new business opportunities through smart, modern marketing strategies that blend traditional and emerging platforms.

A native of Grand Rapids, Michigan, John is a graduate of the University of Michigan and a lifelong Wolverines fan.

He lives in Roswell, Georgia, with his wife Katie and their three children, Nora, Henry and Jules.

 

 

About Billie Adkins

Billie Adkins is a Senior Marketing Strategist for JDA.media.

She is known for her sharp strategic insight and creative horsepower, creating strategies that get dramatic results for advertisers.

Decision-makers and owners value Billie’s candor, curiosity, and ability to ask the kind of provocative questions that lead to the development of distinct and effective media campaigns. Campaigns that demand attention and drive consumer action.

With over 30 years in the media industry, Billie Sue Adkins has cultivated a comprehensive professional background, holding a range of leadership and management positions in sales. Her career began in news and sports broadcasting, later expanding into key roles in station promotion and market research.

This broad foundation equipped Billie with a deep understanding of both content creation and audience engagement, as well as the operational and strategic aspects of media management.

Billie’s leadership style reflects the JDA.media philosophy: every business is unique – and so are the pathways to success.

She leverages all media platforms to drive results for local businesses. Billie ensures each campaign is optimized for format, placement, and performance. Her expertise in digital strategy allows her to fine-tune messaging, targeting, and delivery for precision results, helping businesses maximize reach, relevance, and revenue.

Billie resides in Ohio with her husband Mark and two children, Kara and Seth.  She spends her free time watching her kids play sports or traveling with her family.